Comments on: The Fate of Europe: Lisbon and Ireland http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/they-fate-of-europe-lisbon-and-ireland/ The official blog of UC Santa Barbara's newspaper, the Daily Nexus. Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:33:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: peter in dublin http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/they-fate-of-europe-lisbon-and-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-7411 peter in dublin Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:25:24 +0000 http://blog.dailynexus.com/?p=1322#comment-7411 The question is too: Will the rest of Europe really accept a second no from Ireland... Several are saying they'll go their own way, not let Ireland stop them - and it is to some extent understandable, although the initial position called for everyone's agreement. In such a case, what's left for Ireland? That's right, yet another vote... For those who don't know the 'story' behind this vote... <b>A Bedtime Story for all Nice Children and not so Maastricht Adults</b> http://ceolas.net/#eu7x <b>The Happy Family</b> Once upon a time there was a family treaty-ing themselves to a visit in Lisbon. On the sunny day that it was they decided to go out together. Everyone had to agree on what they would do. "So", said Daddy Brusselsprout "Let's all go for a picnic!" "No", said Aunt Erin, "I don't want to". Did they then think of something else, that they might indeed agree on? Oh yes they did? Oh no they didn't! Daddy Brusselsprout asked all the others anyway, isolating Erin, and then asked her if instead, she would like to go with them to the park and eat out of a lunch basket.... Kids, we'll finish this story tomorrow, and remember, in the EU yes means yes and no means yes as well! . The question is too:
Will the rest of Europe really accept a second no from Ireland…

Several are saying they’ll go their own way, not let Ireland stop them – and it is to some extent understandable, although the initial position called for everyone’s agreement.

In such a case, what’s left for Ireland?
That’s right, yet another vote…

For those who don’t know the ‘story’ behind this vote…

A Bedtime Story for all Nice Children and not so Maastricht Adults

http://ceolas.net/#eu7x

The Happy Family

Once upon a time there was a family treaty-ing themselves to a visit in Lisbon.
On the sunny day that it was they decided to go out together.
Everyone had to agree on what they would do.
“So”, said Daddy Brusselsprout “Let’s all go for a picnic!”
“No”, said Aunt Erin, “I don’t want to”.
Did they then think of something else, that they might indeed agree on?
Oh yes they did?
Oh no they didn’t!
Daddy Brusselsprout asked all the others anyway, isolating Erin, and then asked her if instead, she would like to go with them to the park and eat out of a lunch basket….

Kids, we’ll finish this story tomorrow, and remember, in the EU yes means yes and no means yes as well!
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]]> By: Nate Pearce http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/they-fate-of-europe-lisbon-and-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-7410 Nate Pearce Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:25:34 +0000 http://blog.dailynexus.com/?p=1322#comment-7410 I've no problem with harmonising taxes in the E.U - the french get an awful lot more for their increased taxes. However, if we are going to standardise taxes, we should standardise everything. An excellent example is the gaming industry - where various E.U countries have laws ranging from the most liberal to the harshest! Check <a HREF="www.right2bet.net" rel="nofollow">here </A> for more info! I’ve no problem with harmonising taxes in the E.U – the french get an awful lot more for their increased taxes. However, if we are going to standardise taxes, we should standardise everything. An excellent example is the gaming industry – where various E.U countries have laws ranging from the most liberal to the harshest! Check here for more info!

]]> By: Felix Staratschek http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/they-fate-of-europe-lisbon-and-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-7408 Felix Staratschek Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:59:59 +0000 http://blog.dailynexus.com/?p=1322#comment-7408 Pleace vote for democracy and against the treaty of lisbon Dear irish people! Pleace stop the treaty of lisbon! Is is antidemocartic, militaristic, antisocial. The disadvantages are much bigger, than the advantages. The EU can live with its actuell laws. They should only be changed into a democratic direction. With the treaty of lisbon, the european council is able to change this treaty in great parts without asking the parliament. This is nearly the same law, which mades the nationl- rassistic- party of Germany so powerfull in our country in the year 1933. Our basic law (the german constitution) and all other european constitutions should not be replaced by the treaty of lisbon. But the new treaty tries to bring all right- sytstems in a lower level than the new european right. Here is my informationpage: http://sites.google.com/site/euradevormwald/english . When you have some more english information, pleace send me a link or text or write it into the visitors book of my page. And pleace spread this text all over Ireland. In the hope in your activities for a better Europe, Felix Staratschek, Freiligrathstr. 2, D- 42477 Radevormwald (Germany) Pleace vote for democracy and against the treaty of lisbon

Dear irish people!

Pleace stop the treaty of lisbon! Is is antidemocartic, militaristic, antisocial. The disadvantages are much bigger, than the advantages. The EU can live with its actuell laws. They should only be changed into a democratic direction. With the treaty of lisbon, the european council is able to change this treaty in great parts without asking the parliament. This is nearly the same law, which mades the nationl- rassistic- party of Germany so powerfull in our country in the year 1933. Our basic law (the german constitution) and all other european constitutions should not be replaced by the treaty of lisbon. But the new treaty tries to bring all right- sytstems in a lower level than the new european right. Here is my informationpage: http://sites.google.com/site/euradevormwald/english . When you have some more english information, pleace send me a link or text or write it into the visitors book of my page. And pleace spread this text all over Ireland.

In the hope in your activities for a better Europe, Felix Staratschek, Freiligrathstr. 2, D- 42477 Radevormwald (Germany)

]]> By: Siegfried http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/they-fate-of-europe-lisbon-and-ireland/comment-page-1/#comment-7406 Siegfried Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:06:14 +0000 http://blog.dailynexus.com/?p=1322#comment-7406 I hope it fails as well, if for nothing other than foiling Brussels' "keep voting until you give us the answer we want" tactics against the unconvinced. I hope it fails as well, if for nothing other than foiling Brussels’ “keep voting until you give us the answer we want” tactics against the unconvinced.

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