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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/assault-weapons-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-7300</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill, you covered every ounce of &quot;stupid&quot; I was preparing to beat out of Evan. Saved me some trouble! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill, you covered every ounce of &#8220;stupid&#8221; I was preparing to beat out of Evan. Saved me some trouble! </p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/assault-weapons-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-7162</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, Evan, Evan.    My, my - where to begin.  Impressive how you can be so wrong and off-base, all in one post.  My sympathies for your embarrassment - your ignorance is showing.  

Let&#039;s see - you say &quot;Cop-Killer” bullets are armor piercing rounds, and hollow-pointed highly lethal bullets.&quot;  First, not all hollow-point rounds will penetrate standard-issue body armor.  In fact, I&#039;d go so far as to say it&#039;s likely that most HPs won&#039;t.  And you don&#039;t need an armor-piercing round to go through body armor.  Any decent centerfire hunting rifle round will do it.  The point is - ANY bullet can kill a cop, just like it can kill anyone else.  Just do a little research for stories in which a cop was killed by a bullet going under his arm (bypassing the vest) or in the head.  You don&#039;t need a &quot;cop-killer&quot; bullet to do that.  These type of bans are just a form of creeping incrementalism - desenstizing the public to the notion of increased government control of what you can and cannot buy.

You then say: &quot;Flash-suppressors are intended to prevent the location of a shooter from being determined by looking for the muzzle flash.&quot;

Woopsie!  Wrong.  You&#039;ve been drinking the Brady Campaign Kool-Aid, haven&#039;t you.  Flash suppressors are designed to reduce the visibility of the muzzle flash to the SHOOTER to prevent the shooter from being blinded by the bright incandescent flash.  A flash suppressor does not reduce the visibility of the flash to anyone down-range of the weapon, including the would-be target of the shooter.

&quot;Bottom line, is that these Assault Weapons restrictions are intended to remove weapons designed for combat, i.e. killing people, from the same class as those used for sport: hunting and target practice. If you want these guns to go hunting with, then you are the type of person that would go fishing with dynamite, and are an idiot.&quot;

ANY gun can be used to kill people.  And in fact, lots of people go hunting with &quot;sporterized&quot; versions of your so-called &quot;assault weapons.&quot;

&quot;If you don’t want to hunt with them, then you want to shoot people with them, and you are a dangerous idiot.&quot;

Hmm... seems to be a dangerous idiot calling someone a dangerous idiot.  I happen to own several firearms, none of which I hunt with; yet I do not own them to go shooting people with.  Once again, your  &quot;reasoning&quot; is highly flawed. 

&quot;bayonet lugs…have no effect on the lethality of the weapon” what are you gonna do, attach your beef jerky to the end of your gun?&quot;

No, but neither am I going to attach a bayonet to the end of the gun.  When was the last time you heard of a mass bayoneting, or a drive-by, gang-related bayoneting?  Gee, I thought the rationale for banning these so-called &quot;extremely dangerous&quot; firearms was because they were so easy to use in mass killings and wiping out entire schools.  How does a bayonet lug do that?  And when has anyone used a bayonet lug for such a purpose? 

&quot;If you want to be a sportsman (or sportswomen) there is nothing ’sporting’ about assault weapons (no matter how neat the technology is).&quot;

See, now you&#039;re off on that misguided assumption that the right to firearms is based solely on hunting.  Which, by the way, is uh, wrong.  And if you&#039;re in favor of people having only hunting rifles, well guess what - plenty of hunting rifles are FAR more powerful and accurate at greater distances than the middling firearms &quot;banned&quot; by the AWB.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, Evan, Evan.    My, my &#8211; where to begin.  Impressive how you can be so wrong and off-base, all in one post.  My sympathies for your embarrassment &#8211; your ignorance is showing.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8211; you say &#8220;Cop-Killer” bullets are armor piercing rounds, and hollow-pointed highly lethal bullets.&#8221;  First, not all hollow-point rounds will penetrate standard-issue body armor.  In fact, I&#8217;d go so far as to say it&#8217;s likely that most HPs won&#8217;t.  And you don&#8217;t need an armor-piercing round to go through body armor.  Any decent centerfire hunting rifle round will do it.  The point is &#8211; ANY bullet can kill a cop, just like it can kill anyone else.  Just do a little research for stories in which a cop was killed by a bullet going under his arm (bypassing the vest) or in the head.  You don&#8217;t need a &#8220;cop-killer&#8221; bullet to do that.  These type of bans are just a form of creeping incrementalism &#8211; desenstizing the public to the notion of increased government control of what you can and cannot buy.</p>
<p>You then say: &#8220;Flash-suppressors are intended to prevent the location of a shooter from being determined by looking for the muzzle flash.&#8221;</p>
<p>Woopsie!  Wrong.  You&#8217;ve been drinking the Brady Campaign Kool-Aid, haven&#8217;t you.  Flash suppressors are designed to reduce the visibility of the muzzle flash to the SHOOTER to prevent the shooter from being blinded by the bright incandescent flash.  A flash suppressor does not reduce the visibility of the flash to anyone down-range of the weapon, including the would-be target of the shooter.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bottom line, is that these Assault Weapons restrictions are intended to remove weapons designed for combat, i.e. killing people, from the same class as those used for sport: hunting and target practice. If you want these guns to go hunting with, then you are the type of person that would go fishing with dynamite, and are an idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>ANY gun can be used to kill people.  And in fact, lots of people go hunting with &#8220;sporterized&#8221; versions of your so-called &#8220;assault weapons.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you don’t want to hunt with them, then you want to shoot people with them, and you are a dangerous idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; seems to be a dangerous idiot calling someone a dangerous idiot.  I happen to own several firearms, none of which I hunt with; yet I do not own them to go shooting people with.  Once again, your  &#8220;reasoning&#8221; is highly flawed. </p>
<p>&#8220;bayonet lugs…have no effect on the lethality of the weapon” what are you gonna do, attach your beef jerky to the end of your gun?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, but neither am I going to attach a bayonet to the end of the gun.  When was the last time you heard of a mass bayoneting, or a drive-by, gang-related bayoneting?  Gee, I thought the rationale for banning these so-called &#8220;extremely dangerous&#8221; firearms was because they were so easy to use in mass killings and wiping out entire schools.  How does a bayonet lug do that?  And when has anyone used a bayonet lug for such a purpose? </p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to be a sportsman (or sportswomen) there is nothing ’sporting’ about assault weapons (no matter how neat the technology is).&#8221;</p>
<p>See, now you&#8217;re off on that misguided assumption that the right to firearms is based solely on hunting.  Which, by the way, is uh, wrong.  And if you&#8217;re in favor of people having only hunting rifles, well guess what &#8211; plenty of hunting rifles are FAR more powerful and accurate at greater distances than the middling firearms &#8220;banned&#8221; by the AWB.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Guru</title>
		<link>http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/assault-weapons-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your comment, Evan, the Second Amendment is not intended to preserve the &quot;right to keep and bear arms&quot; for hunting purposes alone.  True, hunting provided a larger portion of our nation&#039;s meat consumption, and was more out of necessity than for game management or sporting purposes when the Bill of Rights was written, but that is beside the point.  The Second Amendment is to give the citizenry A) the ability to protect itself from criminals, and B) the ability to overthrow the government should it become corrupt.  Read the founding fathers&#039; writings and you&#039;ll see that many believed that such was essential for the preservation of liberty and the prevention of tyranny.  If the government was in constant fear of being overthrown if it pissed off the electorate, then our politicians would have a less condescending attitude towards the electorate, and genuinely work for the service of the common good, rather than try to deceive John Q. Public into electing them so they can continue to rule over him.  

In my own humble opinion, Mr./Ms./Mrs. Evan, any weapon that is available to the Armed Forces should be available to any citizen who is of legal age, sane, and has a clean criminal record.  Anything less is an infringement of the spirit, if not the letter, of the Second Amendment.

And, finally, the anti-gun lobby doesn&#039;t care about sportsmen or hunters.  They want all civilian firearms banned, no exceptions.  Since they can&#039;t pull that off all at once, they work by degrees, manipulate public hysteria over gun-related deaths, and exaggerate and outright lie.  Before Prohibition, people thought &quot;Oh, they won&#039;t ban my beer or my wine!  Just that evil hard liquor (assault alcohol?)!&quot;  But no!  With the small exception of wine for Christian religious services, alcohol was banned, which lead only to a rise in organized crime and increased alcohol consumption.  So, unless you&#039;re being deceitful and are one of those who wish to ban all guns, don&#039;t try to sell me on that &quot;I just want to ban the &#039;people-killing machines&#039;!&quot; line.  Guns kill, and a gun that kills well is a machine that does its job well.  And, as long as our government and the crooks have access to such machines, so too should law-abiding citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your comment, Evan, the Second Amendment is not intended to preserve the &#8220;right to keep and bear arms&#8221; for hunting purposes alone.  True, hunting provided a larger portion of our nation&#8217;s meat consumption, and was more out of necessity than for game management or sporting purposes when the Bill of Rights was written, but that is beside the point.  The Second Amendment is to give the citizenry A) the ability to protect itself from criminals, and B) the ability to overthrow the government should it become corrupt.  Read the founding fathers&#8217; writings and you&#8217;ll see that many believed that such was essential for the preservation of liberty and the prevention of tyranny.  If the government was in constant fear of being overthrown if it pissed off the electorate, then our politicians would have a less condescending attitude towards the electorate, and genuinely work for the service of the common good, rather than try to deceive John Q. Public into electing them so they can continue to rule over him.  </p>
<p>In my own humble opinion, Mr./Ms./Mrs. Evan, any weapon that is available to the Armed Forces should be available to any citizen who is of legal age, sane, and has a clean criminal record.  Anything less is an infringement of the spirit, if not the letter, of the Second Amendment.</p>
<p>And, finally, the anti-gun lobby doesn&#8217;t care about sportsmen or hunters.  They want all civilian firearms banned, no exceptions.  Since they can&#8217;t pull that off all at once, they work by degrees, manipulate public hysteria over gun-related deaths, and exaggerate and outright lie.  Before Prohibition, people thought &#8220;Oh, they won&#8217;t ban my beer or my wine!  Just that evil hard liquor (assault alcohol?)!&#8221;  But no!  With the small exception of wine for Christian religious services, alcohol was banned, which lead only to a rise in organized crime and increased alcohol consumption.  So, unless you&#8217;re being deceitful and are one of those who wish to ban all guns, don&#8217;t try to sell me on that &#8220;I just want to ban the &#8216;people-killing machines&#8217;!&#8221; line.  Guns kill, and a gun that kills well is a machine that does its job well.  And, as long as our government and the crooks have access to such machines, so too should law-abiding citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://blog.dailynexus.com/shallow/politicsetal/assault-weapons-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So-called &quot;Cop-Killer&quot; bullets are armor piercing rounds, and hollow-pointed highly lethal bullets. Last I checked, kevlar was not standard issue for most hunted animals, or for the neighborhood crack/meth addict that might break in to your house, nor have either figured out how to survive a normal bullet, when on target.  Flash-suppressors are intended to prevent the location of a shooter from being determined by looking for the muzzle flash, and I sincerely doubt that deer or ducks have evolved to hide from flashes - besides, who hunts at night?  Bottom line, is that these Assault Weapons restrictions are intended to remove weapons designed for combat, i.e. killing people, from the same class as those used for sport: hunting and target practice.  If you want these guns to go hunting with, then you are the type of person that would go fishing with dynamite, and are an idiot.  If you don&#039;t want to hunt with them, then you want to shoot people with them, and you are a dangerous idiot.  &#039;Guru&#039;, huh? &quot;...bayonet lugs...have no effect of [sic] the lethality of the weapon&quot;  what are you gonna do, attach your beef jerky to the end of your gun?  Maybe roast s&#039;mores with your (suppressed) muzzle flash?  Or would you argue that a bayonet attached to the lug has no effect?  Look, if you want to play with all the coolest new people-killing machines, join the army (or SWAT team) and not only will they provide them to you, but teach you how to use them.  If you want to be a sportsman (or sportswomen) there is nothing &#039;sporting&#039; about assault weapons (no matter how neat the technology is).  In your piece, I see no argument against banning these weapons aside from a feeble attempt at arguing semantics, which I guess would put it right up the so-called political guru&#039;s alley.  Just don&#039;t let me see you following up this article with one on the &#039;right to life&#039; argument. You can not have your cake and eat it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So-called &#8220;Cop-Killer&#8221; bullets are armor piercing rounds, and hollow-pointed highly lethal bullets. Last I checked, kevlar was not standard issue for most hunted animals, or for the neighborhood crack/meth addict that might break in to your house, nor have either figured out how to survive a normal bullet, when on target.  Flash-suppressors are intended to prevent the location of a shooter from being determined by looking for the muzzle flash, and I sincerely doubt that deer or ducks have evolved to hide from flashes &#8211; besides, who hunts at night?  Bottom line, is that these Assault Weapons restrictions are intended to remove weapons designed for combat, i.e. killing people, from the same class as those used for sport: hunting and target practice.  If you want these guns to go hunting with, then you are the type of person that would go fishing with dynamite, and are an idiot.  If you don&#8217;t want to hunt with them, then you want to shoot people with them, and you are a dangerous idiot.  &#8216;Guru&#8217;, huh? &#8220;&#8230;bayonet lugs&#8230;have no effect of [sic] the lethality of the weapon&#8221;  what are you gonna do, attach your beef jerky to the end of your gun?  Maybe roast s&#8217;mores with your (suppressed) muzzle flash?  Or would you argue that a bayonet attached to the lug has no effect?  Look, if you want to play with all the coolest new people-killing machines, join the army (or SWAT team) and not only will they provide them to you, but teach you how to use them.  If you want to be a sportsman (or sportswomen) there is nothing &#8216;sporting&#8217; about assault weapons (no matter how neat the technology is).  In your piece, I see no argument against banning these weapons aside from a feeble attempt at arguing semantics, which I guess would put it right up the so-called political guru&#8217;s alley.  Just don&#8217;t let me see you following up this article with one on the &#8216;right to life&#8217; argument. You can not have your cake and eat it too.</p>
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